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Sensational Rolling Stone campus rape story completely unravels


Law & Order | 207616 hits | Mar 25 7:51 am | Posted by: andyt
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The ground has truly shifted when a policeman actually says it's perfectly reasonable for a rape victim to just do nothing, or to let educational officials handle one of the most serious of crimes facing society today, Neil Macdonald writes.

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:56 pm
    And the Phi Kappa Psi frat-boys are, as respectfully as possible, considering whether, and whom, they should sue: Jackie, who has since said she stands by her story, or the important magazine that decided her story was too good to bother checking.


    I hope they sue everybody they can. This is a disgusting story, as usual the woman making false accusations is not prosecuted, but still referred to as a rape 'survivor' and given anonymity. As the Frat says themselves, this doesn't just harm them, but legitimate accusations of rape.

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:16 pm
    "andyt" said

    I hope they sue everybody they can. This is a disgusting story, as usual the woman making false accusations is not prosecuted, but still referred to as a rape 'survivor' and given anonymity. As the Frat says themselves, this doesn't just harm them, but legitimate accusations of rape.


    Apparently in the politically correct paradise it's perfectly fine to make false allegations of rape against perfectly innocent men.

    http://jezebel.com/activists-say-uk-pol ... 1665138793

  3. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:33 pm
    Well, going by comments on this forum, there are no false allegations. If a woman says it happened, it did.

    What the defenders of women don't seem to realize is how damaging false accusations are to women who have been raped coming forward and being believed.

    Seems to me, if the accusers are given anonymity, so should the accused until they are convicted.

  4. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:35 pm
    "andyt" said

    Seems to me, if the accusers are given anonymity, so should the accused until they are convicted.


    Nonsense! Only the guilty are accused, everyone knows that!

  5. by OnTheIce
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:39 pm
    "andyt" said


    Seems to me, if the accusers are given anonymity, so should the accused until they are convicted.


    I agree.

    In most cases, unless public safety is a concern, the names the accused should always remain private until a conviction.

  6. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:39 pm
    "DrCaleb" said

    Seems to me, if the accusers are given anonymity, so should the accused until they are convicted.


    Nonsense! Only the guilty are accused, everyone knows that!

    Since that attitude pervades our society, maybe the names of all accused, not just in rape cases, should be hidden.

  7. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:52 pm
    "andyt" said

    Seems to me, if the accusers are given anonymity, so should the accused until they are convicted.


    Nonsense! Only the guilty are accused, everyone knows that!

    Since that attitude pervades our society, maybe the names of all accused, not just in rape cases, should be hidden.

    No, there is no way for the public to ensure justice is done if facts are kept private. In the case of falsely accusing someone of rape, it's the damage that's done to the person's reputation pretty much forever, that is the problem.

    The Internet never forgets, and the media never covers an acquittal as vigorously as it does an accusation. If it can be proven that the accusation was false, I think the person who made the accusation should get equal 'attention' as the person wrongly accused did.

    Let's make sure than searching someone's name will bring up the fact that the accusation was false to the top of the search results.

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:53 pm
    I could see keeping the names confidential until trial, but not during.

  9. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:58 pm
    That doesn't help either, since mostly now we seems to have these cases decided by trial by media, who, as we've seen, are willing to publish anything and everything.

  10. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:59 pm
    "DrCaleb" said

    Seems to me, if the accusers are given anonymity, so should the accused until they are convicted.


    Nonsense! Only the guilty are accused, everyone knows that!

    That's right! The facts are irrelevant! The only thing that matters is the seriousness of the charges!

  11. by avatar BRAH
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:02 pm
    Lena Dunham's rape story also has holes in it.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:13 pm
    Everything We Know About the UVA Rape Case

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -case.html

  13. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:16 pm
    "andyt" said
    Everything We Know About the UVA Rape Case



  14. by OnTheIce
    Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:56 pm
    "DrCaleb" said


    No, there is no way for the public to ensure justice is done if facts are kept private. In the case of falsely accusing someone of rape, it's the damage that's done to the person's reputation pretty much forever, that is the problem.

    The Internet never forgets, and the media never covers an acquittal as vigorously as it does an accusation. If it can be proven that the accusation was false, I think the person who made the accusation should get equal 'attention' as the person wrongly accused did.

    Let's make sure than searching someone's name will bring up the fact that the accusation was false to the top of the search results.


    The public isn't responsible to serve out justice so they have no reason to know who is accused of what crime and what the evidence may be. That's the job of the jury and the judge.

    The public and the media aren't interested in covering people who make false allegations or someone being proven innocent of the charges...they're more interested in the charges ...the actual outcome of the case/trial is of little interest to the general public.



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