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Liberals will not ban guns until the coming ele

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Liberals will not ban guns until the coming elections


Political | 207523 hits | Jun 19 12:08 pm | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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The Canadian Minister of Organized Crime Reduction and Border Security, Bill Blair says that measures must be taken to address gun violence in Canada but that no ban or other regulation will be voted before the coming federal elections.

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  1. by newz
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:45 am
    Well I'll be be voting lib so they can have a mandate to grab my guns.
    Yeesh!

  2. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:20 am
    A group of sheep notice a wolf attacking one of their flock.
    The sheep, upon seeing the carnage, decide that teeth are dangerous weapons.
    The sheep then decide to remove their own teeth for their own safety.

  3. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:22 pm
    "PublicAnimalNo9" said
    A group of sheep notice a wolf attacking one of their flock.
    The sheep, upon seeing the carnage, decide that teeth are dangerous weapons.
    The sheep then decide to remove their own teeth for their own safety.


    Except that wolves naturally grow their own teeth, they don�t get them by stealing or illicitly buying them from sheep,

    Also unlike your shitty analogy, guns are not natural elements of our bodies like teeth that we�re chosen to get rid of, in an unnatural way, they�re foreign objects that we�ve chosen to introduce to our society

    Also in the real world the killers are not some higher order species like a wolf but are actually just another sheep who lost his shit.

  4. by avatar stratos
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:12 pm
    So lets see how this could play out. Criminal owns a gun, criminal see's this coming and buys a gun that's not registered. New system is put into place. People who have guns and have them registered must now turn guns in. Criminal knows that any place he or she wants to rob has an almost 0% chance of defending themselves from me, the criminal, with a gun. All criminal has to do is get away before cops show up.

    Win Win for the Criminal(s)

  5. by Thanos
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:13 pm
    "stratos" said


    Win Win for the Criminal(s)


    Merely political business as usual on any given day in Canada. :|

  6. by avatar PluggyRug
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:24 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    A group of sheep notice a wolf attacking one of their flock.
    The sheep, upon seeing the carnage, decide that teeth are dangerous weapons.
    The sheep then decide to remove their own teeth for their own safety.


    Except that wolves naturally grow their own teeth, they don�t get them by stealing or illicitly buying them from sheep,

    Also unlike your shitty analogy, guns are not natural elements of our bodies like teeth that we�re chosen to get rid of, in an unnatural way, they�re foreign objects that we�ve chosen to introduce to our society

    Also in the real world the killers are not some higher order species like a wolf but are actually just another sheep who lost his shit.

  7. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:42 pm
    "PublicAnimalNo9" said
    A group of sheep notice a wolf attacking one of their flock.
    The sheep, upon seeing the carnage, decide that teeth are dangerous weapons.
    The sheep then decide to remove their own teeth for their own safety.


    Well said.

  8. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:44 pm
    "BeaverFever" said

    Also in the real world the killers are not some higher order species like a wolf but are actually just another sheep who lost his shit.


    The killers are also the guys with guns that fuckheads always send out to seize guns. :idea:

  9. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 pm
    "stratos" said
    So lets see how this could play out. Criminal owns a gun, criminal see's this coming and buys a gun that's not registered. New system is put into place. People who have guns and have them registered must now turn guns in. Criminal knows that any place he or she wants to rob has an almost 0% chance of defending themselves from me, the criminal, with a gun. All criminal has to do is get away before cops show up.

    Win Win for the Criminal(s)



    There�s no gun ban coming and no way to legally purchase an unregistered handgun. It used to be that you couldn�t legally purchase any unregistered firearm but the last conservative government torched the long gun registry so now long gun owners cannot be held accountable when one of their guns is used in a crime.

  10. by avatar llama66
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:32 pm
    They couldn't before if they reported their gun stolen.

    Remember: Laws and registries and shit only govern the law-abiding. Do you think for a moment that a 90's gang-banger thought at all about registering his AK?

  11. by Thanos
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:34 pm
    Why should a victim of theft and robbery be "held accountable" for anything at all if what was stolen from them is used for nefarious activities by a criminal? Why are liberals so obsessed with imposing harsh collective guilt on just for owning something that liberals just don't like? Psycho liberal extremists demonize gun owners just as much as psycho right-wing extremists do homosexuals.

  12. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:43 pm
    "llama66" said
    They couldn't before if they reported their gun stolen.


    The same guy isn�t likely to report his guns stolen over and over again. Now he�s free to keep making straw purchases over and over again with nobody the wiser

    Remember: Laws and registries and shit only govern the law-abiding. Do you think for a moment that a 90's gang-banger thought at all about registering his AK?


    Might as well make murder legal the huh? Since the criminals don�t obey the laws anyway?

    The 90s gang-banger bought his gun from somebody, who bought it from somebody else who bought it from somebody else. Somewhere along that food chain from the AK factory there was a legal AK and a legal gun owner. Then someone a legal gun owner decided to pass that gun to a criminal. Without a registry that person can�t be held accountable

  13. by avatar llama66
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:49 pm
    I feel that you don't understand that most guns are smuggled into Canada. Further, an AK is a Prohibited weapon, they are illegal in Canada to begin with.

    Different animal, a registry is different than a law. Or he had it smuggled into to Canada. And generally when you buy black market, you don't get a receipt.

    AK's generally are not made in Canada, they are made in countries where your vaunted registry would be useless.

  14. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:00 pm
    "llama66" said
    I feel that you don't understand that most guns are smuggled into Canada. Further, an AK is a Prohibited weapon, they are illegal in Canada to begin with.

    Different animal, a registry is different than a law. Or he had it smuggled into to Canada. And generally when you buy black market, you don't get a receipt.

    AK's generally are not made in Canada, they are made in countries where your vaunted registry would be useless.



    I know where guns come from.

    You claim crime guns are smuggled into Canada from a place with gun lax gun laws. Is that supposed to be your argument in favour of lax gun laws?

    It�s actually not been proven where the majority of crime guns come from but regardless of what proportion of crime guns are smuggled vs being �lost� by so-called �responsible gun owners� in Canada doesn�t matter. Lax gun control means more guns in the hands of criminals.

    I�m also aware that the AK is a prohibited weapon. You�re the one who brought up the AK so don�t try to lecture me for your example. The point still stands: someone legally bought the AK then sold it to a criminal and got away with it because if lax gun laws.



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