[sandorski]

The problem isn't Guns, it's People with Guns. I say we create a Homeland where Guns can roam Free.

[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Brenda Brenda:

First, he did not "mishandle" it, other than he failed the "DO NOT TOUCH"-rule. Apparently, it went off by accident.

No gun in the history of the world ever went off 'by accident'.

Someone loaded it.

Someone chambered it.

Someone took the safety off.

Someone then cocked it.

And then they did something to pull the trigger.

It may have been irresponsible or malicious, but it was not and it is never accidental.

Parent did. No law against it.
Parent did. No law against it.
Parent did. No law against it.
Parent did. No law against it.
Apparently, he dropped the backpack.

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Brenda Brenda:

There is no use to explain to an 8 year old how to use a condom. They have NO clue what you are talking about anyway.

Yet sex ed advocates want it taught to six year olds.

http://www.education.com/reference/arti ... Place_1st/

And where you come from it starts at age five.

http://www.rnw.nl/english/video/sex-edu ... irst-grade

There is a difference between telling kids the difference between boys and girls (which they probably have found out by then anyway) and the technicalities of having sex, using condoms and what menstruation means.
It DOES NOT START at age 5, the opportunity is there. Montessori schools are known for "letting the kids do whatever the hell they please" anyway, posing as "letting the individual strengths come out". Not every school is a Montessori school, thank god.

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Brenda Brenda:

Hell, child protective services would be at your doorstep because that would be considered "inappropriate" and "bad parenting" because kids should be left "innocent". That's the reason why swear words and sex scenes are edited... IJS.

But it's okay if the teacher shows it to your five year old.

I have to meet the first teacher showing a 5 year old how to use a condom.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thanos Thanos:

Ah well, if the little girl dies it'll be a small price to pay to ensure that fat middle-aged white guys wearing "Don't Tread On Me" t-shirts can openly carry a loaded weapon to a rally where President Obama is speaking.

That was a fit, young, black man, by the way and he was wearing a white shirt and a tie.

http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/ ... un-rights/

There were a few of the types I described at other campaign stops Obama made in 2008. And the clean-cut young black guy belongs to a Talibaptist fringe church in Mesa, Arizona that is cut from almost the same cloth as Westboro Baptist. The only "right" on display when these cranks showed up armed at campaign rallies featuring people that they hate was their "right" to intimidate others into doing what the guy with gun wants. That's not freedom, that's borderline fascism.

I believe in the right of responsible citizens to own firearms. I certainly do not believe in the right of some idiot with a loaded firearm to act like a thuggish asshole in public just because the "right" to behave this way is supposedly enshrined in your nation's constitution. This is obviously one of those places where you and I have a major difference in belief systems.

[Strutz]

Further to this news story...

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Seattle boy, 9, charged in shooting may testify against mom
SEATTLE - A 9-year-old boy charged in the accidental shooting of a classmate with a gun he said he brought to school to fend off bullies has agreed to testify against his mother on weapons offenses as part of a deal with prosecutors, his lawyer said on Tuesday.

Police in Bremerton, Washington, where the shooting took place, have said the boy's mother and her boyfriend were to blame for leaving the handgun in question unattended and easily accessible for her son to take.

Arrest warrants have been issued against the couple, Jamie Lee Passmore and Douglas Bauer, accusing them of various firearms violations in connection with the case.

Under terms of an agreement reached on Tuesday in juvenile court in Kitsap County, the boy acknowledged wrongdoing in the wounding of his 8-year-old classmate, Amina Kocer-Bowman, and waived his right to a trial.

The deal requires him to remain in the custody of his paternal uncle, to submit a sample of his DNA, to avoid further contact with his mother, and to write a letter of apology to the girl and her family, court documents for the agreement show.

Moreover, he must undergo counseling and will be placed on supervised juvenile probation for a year.

The boy, who was a third-grade student at Armin Jahr Elementary School in Bremerton, Washington, about 70 miles west of Seattle, was originally charged with assault, bringing a dangerous weapon onto school grounds and unlawful possession of a firearm.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Seattle+charged+shooting+testify+against/6264747/story.html

[andyt]

Interesting. I guess the paternal uncle is who approved the plea bargain, since the kid couldn't do it by himself. Probably a bit of intrafamily animosity there. Where's dad?

Avoid contact with his mother - that seems harsh. I can understand supervised visits, but no contact is pretty unusual.

[Brenda]

I'm shocked too... I'm thinking there must be a bit more going on there...

[Strutz]

Brenda Brenda:

I'm shocked too... I'm thinking there must be a bit more going on there...

Agreed. Sounds like his home life was anything but ideal.

[FurTrader4]

Strutz Strutz:

Further to this news story...

$1:

Seattle boy, 9, charged in shooting may testify against mom
SEATTLE - A 9-year-old boy charged in the accidental shooting of a classmate with a gun he said he brought to school to fend off bullies has agreed to testify against his mother on weapons offenses as part of a deal with prosecutors, his lawyer said on Tuesday.

Police in Bremerton, Washington, where the shooting took place, have said the boy's mother and her boyfriend were to blame for leaving the handgun in question unattended and easily accessible for her son to take.

Arrest warrants have been issued against the couple, Jamie Lee Passmore and Douglas Bauer, accusing them of various firearms violations in connection with the case.

Under terms of an agreement reached on Tuesday in juvenile court in Kitsap County, the boy acknowledged wrongdoing in the wounding of his 8-year-old classmate, Amina Kocer-Bowman, and waived his right to a trial.

The deal requires him to remain in the custody of his paternal uncle, to submit a sample of his DNA, to avoid further contact with his mother, and to write a letter of apology to the girl and her family, court documents for the agreement show.

Moreover, he must undergo counseling and will be placed on supervised juvenile probation for a year.

The boy, who was a third-grade student at Armin Jahr Elementary School in Bremerton, Washington, about 70 miles west of Seattle, was originally charged with assault, bringing a dangerous weapon onto school grounds and unlawful possession of a firearm.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Seattle+charged+shooting+testify+against/6264747/story.html

Way to go mom!...