[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

Savagely attacking and castrating a suspect without a trial may quench your bloodthirst, but it is really not the answer to anything in a civilized society.

Sure it is. This likely wasn't the first time this creep raped someone but for dang sure it's the last.

[wildrosegirl]

Interesting..

Firstly, a few of you don't seem to realize that this took place in India. A country who holds a good hog at a far higher value than any woman.

Secondly, a few more of you seem to be under the impression that we live in a civilized society. Fact is, we live in a delusion that we are part of a civilized society. We're really no more civilized than those people. We just just like to think we are with our fancy little [useless] judicial system in place and our morals standards [which are rarely acknowledged any more]. It's just an ego boosting system that allows us to look down our noses at other cultures and think we're superior to them and sleep soundly at night.

It's all horseshit. Yeah, we'd take the "alleged" rapist to court... and rake his victim over the coals. That's how our system works. Far more civilized...

[andyt]

I'll take the "illusion" we have over whatever else is out there anyday. Let some criminals walk or get soft sentences vs living in vigilante or police state. The price you pay for a decent legal system is that some guilty get off, because there isn't enough proof, or just because juries (people just like you and me) can be stupid. You all want to create China or India here - let's hope you don't succeed.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

I'll take the "illusion" we have over whatever else is out there anyday. Let some criminals walk or get soft sentences vs living in vigilante or police state. The price you pay for a decent legal system is that some guilty get off, because there isn't enough proof, or just because juries (people just like you and me) can be stupid. You all want to create China or India here - let's hope you don't succeed.

I just want a place where people don't have to lock their doors and hide their children all the time.

When a parent can get arrested for letting their kid play alone outdoors (this happend this year in the USA) then it's time to start castrating, flogging, hanging, and shooting not only those who do those things but those who enable them.

[stratos]

Well I don't think this guy will ever have to worry about having his dingle dangling in the dirt.

On a serious note. It is to bad for the guy that he does not live in a country where rapists are actively sought and or pursued by the police force. What is good is that this young girl will not have to sit for days at a trial reliving this horrific event over again. Nor will she have the defense lawyer twist and turn everything around making her look like the one to blame.

[Public_Domain]

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

I'll take the "illusion" we have over whatever else is out there anyday. Let some criminals walk or get soft sentences vs living in vigilante or police state. The price you pay for a decent legal system is that some guilty get off, because there isn't enough proof, or just because juries (people just like you and me) can be stupid. You all want to create China or India here - let's hope you don't succeed.

I just want a place where people don't have to lock their doors and hide their children all the time.

When a parent can get arrested for letting their kid play alone outdoors (this happend this year in the USA) then it's time to start castrating, flogging, hanging, and shooting not only those who do those things but those who enable them.

You're certainly not going to get a place like that with crowds dispensing their own justice. Nor can the state kill and brutalize people enough to make you perfectly safe - we've seen that. However most of not letting kids play outdoors is just hysteria, unless you live in a slum or something. You just won't be able to brutalize your way out of brutality. Crime is down, including violent crime, in your country and mine. Yet you persist in being so very afraid.

[Freakinoldguy]

Delwin Delwin:

Inherent flaws with a judicial system may be a call to action or cause for change but not if it means regression into some kind of barbaric state where mob rule prevails. In my mind, the attackers in this case are no less dangerous than the rapist.
I completely understand the outrage, but regardless of what circumstances surround the crime, and no matter how bad it looks, the accused still has a right to a trial. Anyone who advocates otherwise was born in the wrong century.

Honestly hope you are joking.

Is the goal to get to a place where a simple accusation gets you castrated? No one else sees a problem with that?

Huge misunderstandings sometimes occur. Hasn't anyone seen Three's Company ?

I don't know about you but I do know that if the judicial system wouldn't protect my family I'd have no compunction about doing it myself.

So, given the fact that this was India where rape is as common as jaywalking and punishment for the crime almost non existent, these people did what was required to keep their families safe and imposing first world morality on their actions isn't exactly a fair assessment of the situation.

[andyt]

Fair point. But Delwin was talking about advocating this sort of behavior. There more you have of it, the more you are dealing with a state that's failing - I sure wouldn't want that for Canada.

[Delwin]

There is more than one scenario where this guy isn't guilty at all; the woman wants to frame the guy, she latches on and yells rape, he tries to fight his way out of there and the struggle looks like an attack or, she comes-on to him and during his advance she calls out rape making it look very bad for him.

It's not impossible. It's not like no one has been framed before for rape before or that mistakes don't happen. Does anyone actually think gathering more evidence and trying to discover what actually happened is a bad idea before loping the guys junk off ?

[andyt]

Even if he's guilty, this is no good. A big reason for Western success is rule of law, however imperfect. That's why if this had happened here, his attackers would be spending a lot longer in prison than the original attacker. And that's how it should be.

[Freakinoldguy]

Delwin Delwin:

There is more than one scenario where this guy isn't guilty at all; the woman wants to frame the guy, she latches on and yells rape, he tries to fight his way out of there and the struggle looks like an attack or, she comes-on to him and during his advance she calls out rape making it look very bad for him.

It's not impossible. It's not like no one has been framed before for rape before or that mistakes don't happen. Does anyone actually think gathering more evidence and trying to discover what actually happened is a bad idea before loping the guys junk off ?

Fair enough and if he's found guilty then they can chop his junk off because in India that appears to be the only way to get justice?