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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:23 am
 


Here's a list of things that have been shut down:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/blog/federal-pr ... -or-had-th

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Environmental Emergency Response Program
Urban Wastewater Program
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Smokestacks Emissions Monitoring Team
Hazardous Materials Information Review Commission
National Roundtable on the Environment and the Economy
Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency, Winnipeg Office
Municipal Water and Wastewater Survey
Environmental Protection Operations
Compliance Promotion Program
Action Plan on Clean Water
Polar Environment Atmospheric Research Laboratory (PEARL) (PEARL lost its $1.5 million annual budget when the government stopped funding the Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Science (CFCAS) . In May 2013, the federal government announced the facility would get a $ 1 million a year grant for the next five years. But according to Professor Tom Duck, of Dalhousie University, with the loss of CFCAS, atmospheric and climate research will be funded at less than 70 per cent of the level it was funded at in 2006.)
Sustainable Water Management Division
Environmental Effects Monitoring Program
Federal Contaminated Sites Action Plan
Chemicals Management Plan
Canadian Centre for Inland Waters
Clean Air Agenda
Air Quality Health Index
Species at Risk Program
Weather and Environmental Services
Substance and Waste Management
Ocean Contaminants & Marine Toxicology Program
Experimental Lakes Area (Under the Bill-38 the ELA was shut down. As of January 2014, the International Institute for Sustainable Development and the Ontario government are working out an agreement with the federal government to take over the facility.)
DFO Marine Science Libraries
Centre for Offshore Oil & Gas Energy Research
Kitsilano Coast Guard Station
St. Johns Marine Traffic Centre
St. Anthony’s Marine Traffic Centre
Conservation and Protection Office
Conservation and Protection Office (L’anse au Loup, NL)
Conservation and Protection Office (Trepassey, NL)
Conservation and Protection Office (Rigolet, NL)
Conservation and Protection Office (Burgeo, NL)
Conservation and Protection Office (Arnold’s Cove, NL)
Conservation and Protection Office (Baddeck, NS)
Conservation and Protection Office (Canso, NS)
Conservation and Protection Office (Sheet Harbour, NS)
Conservation and Protection Office (Woodstock, NB)
Conservation and Protection Office (Port Hood, NS)
Conservation and Protection Office (Wallace, NS)
Conservation and Protection Office (Kedgwick, NB)
Conservation and Protection Office (Montague, PEI)
Conservation and Protection Office (Inuvik, NT)
Conservation and Protection Office (Rankin Inlet, NU)
Conservation and Protection Office (Clearwater, BC)
Conservation and Protection Office (Comox, BC)
Conservation and Protection Office (Hazelton, BC)
Conservation and Protection Office (Quesnel, BC)
Conservation and Protection Office (Pender Harbour, BC)
Atlantic Lobster Sustainability Measures Program
Species-at-Risk Program
Habitat Management Program
DFO Institute of Ocean Sciences (Sidney, BC)
Freshwater Institute - Winnipeg
Oil Spill Counter-Measures Team
Maurice-Lamontagne Institute’s French language library
Canadian Coast Guard Management
Water Pollution Research Lab (Sidney, BC)
Water Pollution Research Lab (Winnipeg, MB)
Water Pollution Research Lab (Burlington, ON)
Water Pollution Research Lab (Mont-Joli, QC)
Water Pollution Research Lab (Moncton, NB)
Water Pollution Research Lab (Dartmouth, NS)
St. Andrew Biological Station
Canadian Scientific Submersible Facility
Ice Information Partnership
Motor Vehicle Fleet
Inshore Rescue Boat Program
Species at Risk Atlantic Salmon Production Facilities
Northwest Atlantic Fisheries Organization
At-Sean Observer Programs
Financial Management Services
Pacific Forestry Centre, Satellite Office (Prince George, BC)
Canadian Centre for Remote Sensing
Pulp and Paper Green Transformation Program
Isotopes Supply Initiative
Clean Energy Fund
Sustainable Development Technology Canada – Next Generation Biofuels Fund
Program of Energy Research and Development
Pacific Forestry Centre
Astronomy Interpretation Centre – Centre of the Universe
MRI research, Institute Biodiagnostics
Polar Continental Shelf Progam
Canadian Neutron Beam Centre
Aquatic Ecotoxicology, Aquatic and Crop Resource Development
Molecular Biochemistry Laboratory, Aquatic and Crop Resource Development
Plant Metabolism Research, Aquatic and Crop Resource Development
Human Health Therapeutics research program
Automotive and Surface Transportation program
Magnetic Resonance Imaging Research
Environmental Risks to Health program
Substance Use and Abuse program
First Nations and Inuit Primary Health Care program
Health Infrastructure Support for First Nations and Inuit program
Interim Federal Health Program
Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Administration
Environmental Knowledge, Technology, Information, and Measurement program
Science, Innovation and Adoption program
Rural and Co-operatives Development program
Farm Debt Mediation Service
Centre for Plant Health (Sidney, BC)
National Aboriginal Health Organization
First Nations Statistical Institute
Cultural Connections for Aboriginal Youth
First Nations and Inuit Health
Fertilizer Pre-Market Efficacy Assessment program
Enforcement of Product of Canada label
RADARSAT Constellation Mission
Whapmagoostui-Kuujjuarapik Research station
Kluane Lake Research Station
Bamfield Marine Science Centre
Microfungal Collection and Herborium
Biogeoscience Institute
Coriolis II research Vessel
OIE Laboratory for Infectious Salmon Anaemia
Canadian Phycological Culture Centre
Brockhouse Institute
Polaris Portable Observatories for Lithospheric Analysis and Research
Mount Megantic Observatory
Smoke Stacks Emissions Monitoring Team
National Roundtable on the Environment and Economy
Environmental Protections Operations Compliant Promotion Program,
Sustainable Water Management Division,
Environmental Effects Monitoring program,
Fresh Water Institute
Canadian Centre for Inlands Waters (Burlington)
World Ozone and Ultraviolet Radiation Data Centre
Environmental Emergencies Program
Parks Canada
Montreal Biosphere
Statistics Canada
Fields Institute for Research in Mathematical Sciences
Laboratory for the Analysis of Natural and Synthetic Environmental Toxicants
National Ultrahigh-field NMR Facility for Solids
IsoTrace AMS Facility
Canadian Phycological Culture Centre
Canadian Resource Centre for Zebrafish Genetics
Neuroendocrinology Assay Laboratory at the University of Western Ontario
Canadian Centre for DNA Barcoding
Portable Observatories for Lithospheric Analysis and Research Investigating (POLARIS) (Ontario)
Canadian Institute for Theoretical Astrophysics
Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research
St. John’s Centrifuge Modelling Facility
Quebec/Eastern Canada high field NMR facility
Félix d’Hérelle Reference Center for Bacterial Viruses
Canadian Neutron Beam Laboratory
The Compute/Calcul Canada
Center for Innovative Geochronology
Biogeoscience Institute
Pacific Institute for the Mathematical Sciences
Pacific Northwest Consortium Synchrotron Radiation Facility
Centre for Molecular and Materials Science at TRIUMF
Pacific Centre for Isotopic and Geochemical Research
Canadian Cosmogenic Nuclide Exposure Dating Facility
Atlantic Regional Facilities for Materials Characterization
The Canadian SuperDARN/PolarDARN facility


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:53 am
 


Nice list Doc but your source is suspect.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:59 am
 


DVC185 DVC185:
Nice list Doc but your source is suspect.



Zip up, your bias is showing.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:09 am
 


Also shut down is a program that protected the grasslands in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, apparently the best pieces of natural prairie left in North America. Control has been given to the provinces which don't have the money, so they just tell the ranchers to maintain it best they can. We know what happens with the "tragedy of the commons" approach.

But look on the bright side, a balanced budget by 2015, maybe some tax cuts and continued governance by the good guys.


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While I'm all for the sale of the CBC I'm not sure about Canada Post. I doubt any rural communities are profitable for a mail delivery service. I think that's one service that needs to stay public or else it may become a urban focused service. Then again I rarely see anything in my mailbox that isn't advertisements so I'm not sure it wouldn't be that big a loss for me. However that might not be the case for everyone.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:00 am
 


Another article on the subject:

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The Spectator's view: Eroding Canada’s institutional knowledge
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Is the Harper government making war on public science and research?
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Jan. 31 editorial cartoon

On the surface, this seems a hyperbolic, even ludicrous assertion. But if you look more closely at what is happening in public science across the country, it might not sound quite as ridiculous.

The Canada Centre for Inland Waters, once a crown jewel of Great Lakes research, has been so reduced by staffing and budget cuts, critics say it can't do its job, including adequate monitoring around the Randle Reef project. Estimates are that up to 60 science jobs have been cut in the past decade.

The Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences was killed by the Tories. That cut led to the closure of Canada's most remote weather research station near Eureka, Nunavut, which studied climate quality issues. The National High Field Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Centre in Edmonton is in jeopardy due to a funding freeze. In Ottawa, $10 million in capital equipment is sitting idle at the National Ultrahigh-Field facility at University of Ottawa.

Back in 2008 the Harper government closed the office of the National Science Adviser, intended to provide expert advice to the prime minister. The National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy was closed in 2012, ostensibly because the government didn't like the climate advice. The Experimental Lakes Area near Kenora was closed, although the operations cost of the facility was about $600,000, a third of which was recovered in user-fee revenue.

Stranger still, seven of 11 world-renowned fisheries libraries are being closed, even though a fraction of the books and records stored there has been digitized, and much that hasn't — including 50 volumes from the H.M.S. Challenger exploratory voyages in the 1800s — will end up in landfill sites.


http://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/43 ... knowledge/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:05 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
DVC185 DVC185:
Nice list Doc but your source is suspect.



Zip up, your bias is showing.


I, at least, admit my bias. I will grant that you are entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it is, while offering my hairy puckered opinion to counter it. Let's all smile and move on, shall we?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:07 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
These Crown Corps need to operate within their means, they don't need to turn a profit but they should cover their own costs.

If they can't be made to do so, by all means sell them off.


The problem with the CBC was it was mandated to bring TV to every part of Canada, regardless of whether the location is profitable. Their mandate makes it impossible to operate within their means.


^ This!





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bootlegga bootlegga:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
These Crown Corps need to operate within their means, they don't need to turn a profit but they should cover their own costs.

If they can't be made to do so, by all means sell them off.


The problem with the CBC was it was mandated to bring TV to every part of Canada, regardless of whether the location is profitable. Their mandate makes it impossible to operate within their means.


^ This!


Drop the mandate. And BS as to even attempting to be profitable.

I've watched many CBC shows where they go over 12 minutes with out a commercial.
And drop the PCorrect shows that have no audience like Arctic Air and that other piece of crap North of 60 that they dragged on for over a decade.

"gotta keep the FN happy"


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What a load of BS.
Put the CBC into a spot where it's impossible to break even or be profitable, then use that as a reason to get rid of it.

I like having certain necessary services as a Canadian. To me, impartial news that CAN lose money is a necessity. So is postal service. Health care, water, electricity, gas, roads etc.

If we're all of a sudden worried about getting rid of things the government subsidizes in order to help the average Canadian, I guess we'd also better stop farming EVERYTHING.


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
The timing of this is suspect to me. (As well as it only being on Sun News)

I saw a show on CBC this week that actually made me furious. I knew the Harper was gutting science in favour of Political ideology, but I had no idea how far it was going.

For example, there was a Nature of Things episode last year on a project on Baffin Island that was finding the connecting between the Vikings and early (pre Innuit) native traders about 1000 years ago, from the Museum of Natural History.

http://www.cbc.ca/natureofthings/episod ... ic-mystery

The archaeologist responsible was called into a meeting, let go and given 5 minutes to get her valuables before being escorted off the property, because her research no longer fit the vision of the Natural Museum of History. Right after, the Natural Muesum of History announced a new private sector sponsor, the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers (CAPP).

Watch the show. See if it makes you angry.

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Scientists across the country are expressing growing alarm that federal cutbacks to research programs monitoring areas that range from climate change and ocean habitats to public health will deprive Canadians of crucial information.

“What’s important is the scale of the assault on knowledge, and on our ability to know about ourselves and to advance our understanding of our world,” said James Turk, executive director of the Canadian Association of University Teachers.

In the past five years the federal government has dismissed more than 2,000 scientists, and hundreds of programs and world-renowned research facilities have lost their funding. Programs that monitored things such as smoke stack emissions, food inspections, oil spills, water quality and climate change have been drastically cut or shut down.

The fifth estate requested interviews with two senior bureaucrats and four cabinet ministers with responsibility for resources, the environment and science. All of those requests were denied.


http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/2013-2 ... f-the-labs


You need to new topic this, the rednecks of CKA forums are having a hard time following.


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
The problem with the CBC was it was mandated to bring TV to every part of Canada, regardless of whether the location is profitable. Their mandate makes it impossible to operate within their means.


Maybe the government could save money by closing the CBC and just making it legal for Canadians to sign up for inexpensive American satellite TV services. :wink:


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
The timing of this is suspect to me. (As well as it only being on Sun News)

I saw a show on CBC this week that actually made me furious. I knew the Harper was gutting science in favour of Political ideology, but I had no idea how far it was going.

For example, there was a Nature of Things episode last year on a project on Baffin Island that was finding the connecting between the Vikings and early (pre Innuit) native traders about 1000 years ago, from the Museum of Natural History.

http://www.cbc.ca/natureofthings/episod ... ic-mystery

The archaeologist responsible was called into a meeting, let go and given 5 minutes to get her valuables before being escorted off the property, because her research no longer fit the vision of the Natural Museum of History. Right after, the Natural Muesum of History announced a new private sector sponsor, the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers (CAPP).

Watch the show. See if it makes you angry.

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Scientists across the country are expressing growing alarm that federal cutbacks to research programs monitoring areas that range from climate change and ocean habitats to public health will deprive Canadians of crucial information.

“What’s important is the scale of the assault on knowledge, and on our ability to know about ourselves and to advance our understanding of our world,” said James Turk, executive director of the Canadian Association of University Teachers.

In the past five years the federal government has dismissed more than 2,000 scientists, and hundreds of programs and world-renowned research facilities have lost their funding. Programs that monitored things such as smoke stack emissions, food inspections, oil spills, water quality and climate change have been drastically cut or shut down.

The fifth estate requested interviews with two senior bureaucrats and four cabinet ministers with responsibility for resources, the environment and science. All of those requests were denied.


http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/2013-2 ... f-the-labs



More on the Pat Sutherland clusterf*ck:

http://myronpaine.blogspot.com/2013/07/ ... rland.html


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Alright, let me refer you all to a thread I started a little over a year ago, wherein I point out all the holes in the claims that the CBC is as left-wing as its critics say. What kind of self-respecting leftist hotbed would have the likes of Kevin O'Leary, Kate McMillan, Tom Flanagan, Rex Murphy and Don Cherry on the public payroll, receiving airtime and salaries paid for by our taxes? I'm not complaining about this-in fact, I'm quite pleased to see a variety of voices on the network and I certainly wouldn't be complaining if Ezra Levant were to become a regular commentator, or what have you.

Besides which, despite all the cutbacks the CBC is still doing some pretty important journalism, not the least of which is what DrCaleb cited. The Harper government has been claiming that its spending cuts will be done through attrition, rather than affecting frontline services.

The CBC is providing an important check to that by showing the sheer number of things it's cut, including services that directly impact the safety and livelihoods of ranchers, boaters and veterans. You'd think this is something that we as Canadians ought to know about.

And finally, would the CBC ever do something as insanely crass and stupid as this???

...Didn't think so.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

More on the Pat Sutherland clusterf*ck:

http://myronpaine.blogspot.com/2013/07/ ... rland.html


See, now even Bart is criticizing this. That's how bad these cuts are.


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