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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:46 pm
I hope they are able to get this bylaw, it would be quite impressive if other non native communities could pass something like this.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:48 pm
Finally the news says something good about the natives.
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peck420
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:51 pm
What is good about this?
Instead of dealing with a problem, let's just push it out onto ROC.
How is this even legal?
What a joke.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:54 pm
peck420 peck420: What is good about this?
Instead of dealing with a problem, let's just push it out onto ROC.
How is this even legal?
What a joke. Bands are usually isolated from help, it set a precedence to get gangs out of those rural areas and into places the police can rapidly reach. The police would have to deal with them eventually, at least this way they don't have to drive 30 minutes to respond to a gang shooting.
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peck420
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:56 pm
This band has not been isolated.
The RCMP, the EPS, and the CPS have all offered to help.
They have been repeatedly denied or shunned by the locals.
This is a pile of bull shit that will just move the problem to the next area.
If any community other than a 'Nation' tried this, it would be pulled in front of the Supreme Court and offered their own rectum on a platter.
Why is it different now?
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:59 pm
jeff744 jeff744: peck420 peck420: What is good about this?
Instead of dealing with a problem, let's just push it out onto ROC.
How is this even legal?
What a joke. Bands are usually isolated from help, it set a precedence to get gangs out of those rural areas and into places the police can rapidly reach. The police would have to deal with them eventually, at least this way they don't have to drive 30 minutes to respond to a gang shooting. If you live in Red Deer or Calgary, I bet you might think differently.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:00 pm
peck420 peck420: This band has not been isolated.
The RCMP, the EPS, and the CPS have all offered to help.
They have been repeatedly denied or shunned by the locals.
This is a pile of bull shit that will just move the problem to the next area.
If any community other than a 'Nation' tried this, it would be pulled in front of the Supreme Court and offered their own rectum on a platter.
Why is it different now? Because despite the frequent idiocy of bands this one at least is doing something, and removing them from the band means the police can go full force on the gangs without having to listen to more natives bitching about the police and government.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:03 pm
peck420 peck420: This band has not been isolated.
The RCMP, the EPS, and the CPS have all offered to help.
They have been repeatedly denied or shunned by the locals.
This is a pile of bull shit that will just move the problem to the next area.
If any community other than a 'Nation' tried this, it would be pulled in front of the Supreme Court and offered their own rectum on a platter.
Why is it different now? Exactly. This is pushing th problem onto someone else because of a failure in community leaderhip. This is absolute bullshit at it's finest. I wonder what Chilliwack would think if Abbotsford pased a similar bylaw? Or better yet, if BC eveicted its criminals and sent them to Alberta (remember the welfare spat?)
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peck420
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:04 pm
What are they doing?
Shunning responsibility. That's about it.
They allowed the gangs to setup. They denied assisting LEO's to come in and help.
Now they are going to 'evict' the problem onto ROC.
The only thing they are doing is increasing the divide between ROC and First Nations.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:07 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: jeff744 jeff744: peck420 peck420: What is good about this?
Instead of dealing with a problem, let's just push it out onto ROC.
How is this even legal?
What a joke. Bands are usually isolated from help, it set a precedence to get gangs out of those rural areas and into places the police can rapidly reach. The police would have to deal with them eventually, at least this way they don't have to drive 30 minutes to respond to a gang shooting. If you live in Red Deer or Calgary, I bet you might think differently. I was raised in a town with a reserve a few Kms away, if something was stolen it was either one of ~5 locals or more frequently, the natives. I currently live in a city where my car has been broken into three times and stolen twice, once found right near an urban reserve and another time was taken to Prince Albert, the urban reserve is known by police as a crime area and is regularly patrolled and checked by the police. Far easier to watch the extra natives that will flock to crime prone areas than to drive out to the reserve and patrol it frequently as well.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:08 pm
peck420 peck420: What are they doing?
Shunning responsibility. That's about it.
They allowed the gangs to setup. They denied assisting LEO's to come in and help.
Now they are going to 'evict' the problem onto ROC.
The only thing they are doing is increasing the divide between ROC and First Nations. They are unwilling to act and will defend them from police, once the gang member is expelled the bands can't challenge the police anymore, at least with this the gang members won't be protected by everyone on the reserve.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:09 pm
jeff744 jeff744: Gunnair Gunnair: jeff744 jeff744: Bands are usually isolated from help, it set a precedence to get gangs out of those rural areas and into places the police can rapidly reach. The police would have to deal with them eventually, at least this way they don't have to drive 30 minutes to respond to a gang shooting. If you live in Red Deer or Calgary, I bet you might think differently. I was raised in a town with a reserve a few Kms away, if something was stolen it was either one of ~5 locals or more frequently, the natives. I currently live in a city where my car has been broken into three times and stolen twice, once found right near an urban reserve and another time was taken to Prince Albert, the urban reserve is known by police as a crime area and is regularly patrolled and checked by the police. Far easier to watch the extra natives that will flock to crime prone areas than to drive out to the reserve and patrol it frequently as well. And all this teaches the natives - these nations - is that transportation is the answer to their problems. Transportation to the ROK and the taxpayers that pick up the tab. I might buy into this if the reserve payed for the costs of policing and processing these guys each and every time they were picked up outside of their territory.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:11 pm
jeff744 jeff744: peck420 peck420: What are they doing?
Shunning responsibility. That's about it.
They allowed the gangs to setup. They denied assisting LEO's to come in and help.
Now they are going to 'evict' the problem onto ROC.
The only thing they are doing is increasing the divide between ROC and First Nations. They are unwilling to act and will defend them from police, once the gang member is expelled the bands can't challenge the police anymore, at least with this the gang members won't be protected by everyone on the reserve. Sorry, but the reality you just posted makes zero, I say again, zero sense. Why should the taxpayer have to pick up the cost of processing one of these shits when days before the band mollycoddled the creature becuase of some blatant anti-white agenda?
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:16 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: jeff744 jeff744: peck420 peck420: What are they doing?
Shunning responsibility. That's about it.
They allowed the gangs to setup. They denied assisting LEO's to come in and help.
Now they are going to 'evict' the problem onto ROC.
The only thing they are doing is increasing the divide between ROC and First Nations. They are unwilling to act and will defend them from police, once the gang member is expelled the bands can't challenge the police anymore, at least with this the gang members won't be protected by everyone on the reserve. Sorry, but the reality you just posted makes zero, I say again, zero sense. Why should the taxpayer have to pick up the cost of processing one of these shits when days before the band mollycoddled the creature becuase of some blatant anti-white agenda? We already pick up the cost, every time you pay the insurance on your car some of it goes to partially compensating people for the damage that native gangs are able to do while hiding behind the security of their band. I have had to collect on insurance three times in under 1.5 years, if it is stolen again I lose the car and get $2000 to buy a car that is a fraction the quality of my current one.
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