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Title: 'I don't have another country to belong to yet': Wexit Canada interim leader won't give up federal pension
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2020-06-25 05:54:53
Canadian

[Freakinoldguy]

Sorry Mr. Kenny but as sick as it sounds, the rules in Canada for MP's and former MP's are as follows:

If you're trying to tear the country apart you still get to be a member of Parliament. If you're trying to tear the country apart and get lucky enough to secure your place at the trough in Parliament not once but twice, you get to keep your pension.

Those rules will apply till you're successful in tearing Canada apart where upon you'll be gently asked to do the right thing and either return or stop receiving your pension. But, Canada being Canada you'll then be able to tell your former country to politely "fuck off" and keep your pension because you earned it representing the people who wanted Canada torn apart.

[DrCaleb]

After the Bloc is put against the wall, Wexiteers are next.

[DrCaleb]

Not that I have strong feelings on the matter though.

[herbie]

Go for it Wexiteers, steal every fucking Tory vote you can dig up. Then die you fucking traitors.

[Thanos]

It's Jay Hill, it has nothing to do with Jason Kenney.

[BeaverFever]

I have no sympathy for separatists but if you leave your employer you’re still entitled to collect the pension you earned before you left, you just don’t earn any more pension after you leave. So Captain Wexit is right, he is entirely entitled to keep it.

By the way pensions come from the pension fund, which is funded as employees earn their entitlement, not from tax dollars collected in the year the pension was paid. So it’s not like he would be getting anything from taxpayers after he leaves.

[BeaverFever]

Double

[JaredMilne]

I wonder how many times this doorknob has ripped on the Bloc Quebecois' MPs for doing the same thing when their stated goal was to break up the country.

Amusingly, the Bloc doesn't want anything to do with the Western separatists.

Who'd have guessed that throwing all that shade at Quebec and the French language over the years would have soured the Quebec separatists on working with them?

[Thanos]

It's a two-way street with the nasty rhetoric. Quebec's long made it clear that they'll do absolutely nothing to help another province, as shown most recently by the sabotage of the Energy East pipeline that was done mostly by Quebec politicians. The departure of the Alberta tax base from Canada would be a massive revenue hit, which means Quebec would see a shrieking halt to most of their equalization pogey. As such, for Quebec separatist or federalist alike Alberta leaving Canada would be their nightmare scenario, so it makes sense in a twisted way for a Quebec separatist to be the bitterest enemy of an Alberta once.

[Zipperfish]

Not interested in separation even remotely, but it would be nice if the Centre (Ottawa / Quebec) didn't treat the West like the colonies. Seriously, you need to hold their feet to the fire constantly.

[Thanos]

It's near impossible to ever get those who were raised to think that they are the elite to change their mindset. And it applies as much to those who were merely born and live in a certain locale as much as it does to those who inherit a pile of daddy's money. The fun part about toying with them intellectually comes from when their staunch ideological blindness gets revealed. They count themselves among the most liberal and progressive people on the entire planet but they absolutely refuse to ever support a national re-arrangement that would reduce their power or end their perpetual dominance over others. If that isn't the height of bull-headed intransigence and intolerance of the sort that's supposedly only typical to conservative minds then what the fuck else is?

Wexit will fail and nothing will change. It is not possible to change Canada because the foundational viewpoint is too deeply entrenched. Give it twenty years and Wexit will be as much forgotten as the Quebec referendums now are, and life overall will go by without skipping a beat.

[JaredMilne]

Thanos Thanos:

It's a two-way street with the nasty rhetoric. Quebec's long made it clear that they'll do absolutely nothing to help another province, as shown most recently by the sabotage of the Energy East pipeline that was done mostly by Quebec politicians. The departure of the Alberta tax base from Canada would be a massive revenue hit, which means Quebec would see a shrieking halt to most of their equalization pogey. As such, for Quebec separatist or federalist alike Alberta leaving Canada would be their nightmare scenario, so it makes sense in a twisted way for a Quebec separatist to be the bitterest enemy of an Alberta once.

Well, Irving Oil was going to continue importing from Saudi Arabia even if Energy East went ahead.

And there were reports that the business case for Energy East was significantly weakened by the free market...and this from guys who didn't exactly have a lot of leftist street cred. If you ever knew Mel Hurtig, you know how much he despised the C.D. Howe Institute.

[Thanos]

Not much point in discussing any of this all over again. Canadian O&G is dead, with no hope of recovery whatsoever. And Alberta's been effectively destroyed, reduced to Rust Belt status in what was basically a blink of an eye. The Laurentians got what they wanted. Time to move on to whatever else comes next.

[llama66]

Thanos Thanos:

Not much point in discussing any of this all over again. Canadian O&G is dead, with no hope of recovery whatsoever. And Alberta's been effectively destroyed, reduced to Rust Belt status in what was basically a blink of an eye. The Laurentians got what they wanted. Time to move on to whatever else comes next.

I'd love to argue this point with you-- but I can't. The Province better pivot post haste; but we won't so long as the UCP is in power. Ottawa's inaction brought us to our knees and Edmonton's catering to the O&G destroyed us.