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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:31 am
 


Title: Act of heroism exposes Canada's �arcane' and �contradictory' self-defence laws
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Posted By: Gunnair
Date: 2011-10-30 12:30:20
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So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:59 am
 


Blue_goose80 Blue_goose80:
So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?

Sounds about right, these days :|


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:30 am
 


Blue_goose80 Blue_goose80:
So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?



or . . . While one day they may find the bodies, they will never get a positive ID.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:08 am
 


All those US states that passed 'Castle Doctrine' don't look so silly now, do they?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:20 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
All those US states that passed 'Castle Doctrine' don't look so silly now, do they?

Actually, I've never had an issue with Castle Doctrine up to a point. Personally, I think one should be able to booby-trap potential forced entry points as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:50 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Blue_goose80 Blue_goose80:
So if someone is breaking into your house and threatening your family, just roll with it. Because if you do anything to the intruder, you'll get a way stiffer sentence than the bad guys. Best thing to do is find out where the bad guy lives, break into his house, threaten him, and take all your stuff back. That way you'll only get a slap on the wrist. And hopefully the bad guy hits you while your fleeing his house so he'll get jail time. I think thats how this works, right?



or . . . While one day they may find the bodies, they will never get a positive ID.

If you live on a farm and are smart they will never stand a chance of finding them, what will his thieving buddies do? Admit they broke into your property and now they can't find their buddy? Good luck getting the police to put in the effort to find that body.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:54 pm
 


Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!


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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
All those US states that passed 'Castle Doctrine' don't look so silly now, do they?

Actually, I've never had an issue with Castle Doctrine up to a point. Personally, I think one should be able to booby-trap potential forced entry points as well.

I seriously pondered doing something similar to that to my car after it was stolen for the second time. I wanted to rig it so when they smashed my window the door would be rigged with a can of Nos to fly into the bastard that was trying to take it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:56 pm
 


Yogi Yogi:
Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

If you got caught you would likely serve less time than you would for letting them live anyways.


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jeff744 jeff744:
Yogi Yogi:
Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

If you got caught you would likely serve less time than you would for letting them live anyways.



How you gonna get caught [i]if you SHUT-UP!??? :lol: [/i]


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:48 am
 


Yogi Yogi:
jeff744 jeff744:
Yogi Yogi:
Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up!

If you got caught you would likely serve less time than you would for letting them live anyways.



How you gonna get caught [i]if you SHUT-UP!??? :lol: [/i]


Usually because the neighbour's dog comes home with a femur after digging it up. ;)

But he's right - When young man can kill another young man with a baseball bat and get 1 year probation, and this guy is looking at 10 years for trying to protect his wife from being a victim of vehicluar homicide . . .I'd guess you could plead 'shoot shovel and shut up' down to 'causing indecency to human remains' and a 6 months house arrest.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:22 am
 


well, I know the CPC are working an a revision of the self defense laws, hopefully this will end some of the needless BS of charging victims of crime.

I really is a mess our current law(s) and the idea of crown prosecutors pretty much charging everyone involved has to stop.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:59 am
 


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The Criminal Code provisions that govern self-defence and defence of property are “arcane, unduly complex, contradictory and just basically a mess,” said Steven Penney, a University of Alberta law professor.

Or to put it simply... all fucked up.


Did the assholes who trashed his house pay for all the damages done? Doubt it.

Now that this family has a dog they should advertise it (because I'm sure that the failure to make it clear there is a dog on the premises would carry some bullshit charge)

One like this should make it pretty clear:
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:13 am
 


Strutz Strutz:
$1:
The Criminal Code provisions that govern self-defence and defence of property are “arcane, unduly complex, contradictory and just basically a mess,” said Steven Penney, a University of Alberta law professor.

Or to put it simply... all fucked up.


Did the assholes who trashed his house pay for all the damages done? Doubt it.

Now that this family has a dog they should advertise it (because I'm sure that the failure to make it clear there is a dog on the premises would carry some bullshit charge)

One like this should make it pretty clear:
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German Sheppard on watch.jpg


Unfortunately a sign like this or a "Beware Dog" sign would tell the courts that you knew your dog would attack and you would be charged. :(


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